Come drunk, oh, oh um come on so so hello, hello, everyone. This is honestly one of the coolest parts of my job. You never know what things are gon na happen in the world when you're streaming and news, and all that and sometimes you're presented with very unique and, in my opinion, awesome awesome opportunities this. Yes, it's a little special stream.

This is not in the normal schedule. We're hitting you with some extra content, and today we are have the privilege to have the interview with chris pavlovsky, who happens to be the ceo and founder of rumble. If you haven't heard of rumble before it is a video platform that it's been around for a little bit, but it recently hit its fighting weight and it's kind of giving a run for money of these big tech plays such as like youtube, facebook. It's a whole new outlook on really social media and it's kind of combating this censorship that we've recently seen, but before i get too far into that, i just want to let you know that we're going to be getting all those details in a second from the Guy who made it himself? So if you have any burning questions throughout the interview, please post them.

If we have some time we'll answer it at the end, but really what the point of this is is to talk about what is going on with the internet. Right now, what's going on with the government's intersection with censorship, the government all that stuff and how will it have implications on the internet and what are some of the ways that we could potentially fight back against? All that. So with all that being said, let me get this switched right over and we will be talking to the man himself, mr chris pavlovsky welcome. Welcome, welcome.

We are so incredibly excited to have you. How are you doing today? Matt. Thank you for having me i'm doing great. You know um it's kind of an interesting day that we were able to really pull this off, because i'm looking over here on my screen and it looks like facebook is still getting absolutely rocked from their earnings like i'm.

It's down 25, like that's huge before this, it was almost at a trillion dollars and now it's just getting rocked and i i know this comes a little bit more into your world but geez like it's users, it's not going the right way. That's for sure, can you hear me all right? Chris yeah, i just lost you there and now you're coming back. Okay, awesome um! So i was just talking about how facebook it's still having a really really rough, go of it uh man down 25 today and like a thing that most likely interests you in all these other social media plays. Is its user growth uh not going in the right direction? Yeah, it's uh! It's been an interesting uh earnings call that they had.

Yesterday. I saw that uh in the u.s and canada they uh they sheded some users, um and uh. I would be very curious to see what how youtube had part did in us and canada as well, but uh, seeing that facebook is shedding. Some users is very interesting um and the question that we should all be asking is where they're going or uh what is happening because uh there needs to be an explanation for for.

What's going on, that's for sure that i definitely agree with you and, of course, some of those numbers we're going to get into that for a second, but i think the best way to put some framework around this particular conversation is um. I found that it's all. This like, when you get into mainstream media and this and they're very short clips, and it's always just like those classic scripted questions, and it's just. I guess what people in this particular world have been used to.

But it's kind of crazy because on this end now, like there's people like me, far bigger than me and also smaller than me, who are kind of taking a different approach where it's a lot more transparent, a lot more open and i think that's if we frame The conversation this way you know we could have a very good conversation about censorship and the internet and freedom of speech and really, where rumble fits into all of that so kind of with that, as our like our north star here, could you kick us off for People who've never heard of rum before what in the world is rumble yeah, no i'll i'll, take it back uh. Two decades ago i was building websites on the internet and uh it was uh. I remember it was like 2005 one of my good friends at a high school was like hey check out this site, they're gon na dominate and he owned like a really big site at the time in video and he's uh he's like look at these guys and That site was youtube and uh. Two years later, google comes up acquires youtube.

I think late 2006 um and by 2007 2008 uh youtube sucks up all the oxygen in the room. It becomes like the de facto uh video platform out there and uh all the websites at the time kind of uh. You know, went away, break.com, ebomb's, world, etc and uh. It wasn't until 2010 that i started to see something happen: um with the multi-channel networks and youtube and uh their prioritization around like big influencers, mcns, etc.

So by 2013. I thought it was a good opportunity to come back into the market and video and uh and start rumble. So i started rumble late 2013 on the premise of helping the small creator, because we started seeing like friends, family aunts, uncles, uh, really not get the prioritization or the equal uh, the equal prioritization that they deserved for their content. And we saw all this prioritization with uh big brands, corporations, influencers etc.

So by 2013 we started. I remember i went out to to all the vcs. I tried to raise money on the idea that this was happening in the market. They all kind of laughed us out of the room that became a blessing in disguise uh by 2020, the the entire market changes and the opening happens and rumble that's kind of when things hit.

The fan and uh rumble takes off on this enormous growth trajectory in in the fall of 2020 uh late summer, and you know we haven't looked back since then uh. So you know at this point right now: one of the the competing competitive advantages that i see that we have at rumble is there is no prioritization. There are no algorithms that preference content based on ideal ideology or you know, brands or corporations. It's just a fair platform: uh, where you know anyone can have it can can express their voice without any type of uh, any type of censorship.

You know, i think it's, let's get it right, like there's an elephant in the room and if people look it up and let's say they've, never ever used rumble, there's a good chance. What they've heard of rumble, if they have heard of it, is more. It could be negative, leaning, i've read some very like accusatory, things of um. The simplest way to say is like catering to the right, leaning audience and it gets much more uh a disparaging from there, depending on like what source you're using.

But what i'm hearing - and i guess i'm being a little bit facetious, but so you're, a guy from canada, the companies based in canada. You started in 2013. How did some, canadian guy all of a sudden, become like uh, owning and operating a video platform? That, like is being accused of like kind of serving a right-leaning audience like. I i'm missing something here yeah for like if there's any kind of ideology that this platform has we started in 2013.

Our politics are cats and dogs when we started so um being that uh, we started in canada in 2013. Um there is. There is no ideology here. This is uh our.

If anything, it's it's we're just neutral um. If you can have a discussion, that's happening at your dinner table, you should be able to have it online and we're not going to get in front of that. So that's the way we see it. Obviously, the corporate media has a lot of incentive to make sure that we don't grow.

You know they didn't get the chance to invest in 2013 when we were small um. So it's a different world that we're we're living in rumble is uh rumble's, really challenging a lot of things out there and uh it's it's. The incentive out there for them is to just to make sure the incumbents uh have all the power and not have and not have the companies like rumble uh gain that power, but uh something happened in the last two years. Um it started.

You know the first uh the first uh thing to happen was when devin nunes came to our platform, congressman devin nunes. You know i'll kind of go through that that a little bit so you get a little context uh. You know it was 11 o'clock at night. Me being a canadian uh that built this platform in canada based out of canada, we see a sign up, come in from congressman, devin nunes and i'm like holy.

Are we like under investigation like what's going on? How is the house uh ranking member of the house? Intelligence committee coming to rumble and why uh a week later, you know i get on a call with devin. He asks a really simple question he's like chris. If i bring my content to rumble and someone searches, my name, are they gon na be able to find it and i'm like yeah, absolutely um. So he comes onto the platform and uh next thing you know uh it's uh.

That was an enormous success within three months of him. Coming on, he had like two to three hundred thousand subscribers so like. Why would anybody like congressman devin nunes go continue to invest his time on a platform like youtube, where he only has 10 000 subscribers? In four years, if he was able to get like 300 000 uh subscribers on rumble within three months, like that's the question that needs to be asked that, why does that happen? What is happening and why would he go anywhere else, of course, of course, rumble's going to explode when, when you see yield like that on time, spent of uh uploading your podcast, so that's kind of how rumble took off you know we had a lot of conservative Influencers join the platform in september, late september and then october, and then it just kept accelerating - and we saw this enormous growth happen in the middle of uh of the summer of last year. When you know the tent kind of widened and we attracted uh congress, congresswoman uh democratic congresswoman, tulsi gabbard to our platform, so not so sure how right-wing that is, and uh also glenn greenwald, and for me it doesn't matter what your your politics are.

I'm it's i'm indifferent uh. We just want to provide a platform where people can have open discussion. The same way you can have at your dinner table and if you want to subscribe to hear those discussions you can subscribe to them. We're not going to get in front of it, we're not going to tell you what to watch we're not going to tell people what to say.

Unlike a lot of these other incumbent platforms, man uh, that's definitely refreshing to hear like historically. For me, i, the first time i actually got a dm from rumble - was either the first or second time i got terminated from youtube. Fortunately, i was able to get the channel back, but, like the community i come from, we definitely don't hold back and we've been known to like needle people like in the side of positions of power. So it's kind of interesting when i've had my channel taken down twice and there's other people in my community who have had it taken down but uh for a real world example just for uh right now on youtube.

It's very rare for me to carry less than like four or five thousand people live this stream. As we're talking we're at 600., we are at 600 people. I put your name and title into the description. I explain.

What's going on and youtube just doesn't want part of it and i get it okay, maybe that's a business decision like i'm on their platform right now talking about a competitive platform, but overall it's this sense of it's a weird sense of elitism of like this is What you sh, these should be your opinions. This should be what you know while it seems like, and please correct me if i'm wrong, like you're, just trying to make a platform like hey, we're just trying to serve videos, and if you like it great watch it. If you don't, okay, go on to the next video um without putting your own ideological, like i guess, opinions on other people yeah. Absolutely i can't tell you what these other platforms are doing.

All i know is that when i look at the data of you know people coming into our platform and seeing how fast you know they grow with subscribers um and they grow with their views and particularly a lot of conservative uh personalities. Um. It's quite shocking and i think that's the real story like why isn't the media looking into why these other ones, these other influencers are not growing or these other creators are not growing it that that's that's the concern that i have like it's very odd and like, If your stream is significantly less on on youtube, just because i'm on that that that kind of just lends credence to why platforms like rumble are so important right now to kind of push back against uh all this type of uh of censorship - that's happening, call it! Whatever you want, we don't know exactly how it works over there, but definitely something is happening and if your yield and your performance on rumble is exceeding that on the other platform, you know let the markets choose uh and i i think they'll they'll choose rumble. I i really do because uh the fair we are, if we're more fair than the other platforms out there.

It time time will move the market over to us and that's what's happening right now. Yeah, and i definitely want to get into some of those specifics. But just so the audience knows, i'm looking it up right now. I just went on rumble it's funny that there's like this connotation of like extremely like right-leaning ideas, and i looked it up today, like on rumble's homepage, uh.

There's a video related to a pug blending in with other inanimate pugs, and then i'm also seeing some stuff from russell brandon. The last time i checked, i don't believe russell brand is an extremely right-leaning figurehead, but it seems like one of the a lot of these people seem to have apparently already expert developed opinions. Before doing like literally just one simple search, i mean it's pugs and russell brand today, like it's not like it's, not political yeah. No, we uh.

That was funny. How i didn't even know. Russell brand joined rumble and it happened in the in the middle of september. A couple months ago and uh, one of my team team members are like hey.

Is this like the real account of russell brand and we looked into it, looked real and then we contacted him and uh now he's bringing in exclusive live streams to rumble in the in the in a very short short while here he'll start bringing on exclusive live Streams and his content comes on to rumble uh before he puts it on youtube, so yeah that was a that was a big get for us and once again, like you know, the media will continue to say that we're one thing but i'll continue to say that We're neutral and uh: we don't we don't preference and we don't have any specific ideology we're. I started this company, i come from a town outside of toronto called brampton and you know half my exec team. A few members of my executive team all grew up in brampton, so like we're built uh with with true believers in what we're doing, um and uh people that i've grown up with my whole life. So it's uh it! It's it! It's it's! It's been.

It's been a fun ride up until right now, but like having guys like russell and bringing in different voices from all sides of the spectrum is a is something that we'll continue to do and like we really want to get into gamers. We want to get into finance, we want to get into uh to basically every category we'd love to have a guy like joe rogan as well. Uh come to our platform, so we're gon na try everything um and we're gon na go after everyone and uh. Hopefully, we'll tilt the market back man, i i wan na get into a little bit more of the like specific wall street side of things, but you just brought up uh, obviously a hot topic right now, joe rogan um.

So if i'm being completely forthcoming, i've been following the story, but i'm not saying i know like every little aspect of it. Hey me doing these types of streams. It eats up quite a bit of my day, but what i did find interesting was from the right here. The title is: white house urges spotify to take further action on joe rogan and the way i think of it is have i followed every single second of the story.

No, but just generically. I don't have to agree with someone's opinion to know that i think they should be able to share said opinion. Obviously you can get to a point where you cross, like a legal line if you're calling for violence or something like that, but like to me, it's weird because shouldn't people be able to talk a good opinion, bad opinion. That's the point of having an opinion like to progress as society.

You have to risk being able to think and if you're risking, be able to think well. Okay, maybe sometimes you're going to be wrong. So i'm a little confused about that mindset, but i'm also confused that i didn't know the white house ever had opinions on podcasts yeah. No, that that's super concerning to have like government put pressure on a private company of how they're doing business.

I i didn't think i'd see the day, um that that that is a i don't know what that is. Legally speaking, all i know is like that should not be happening. Is it a violation of the first amendment to to ask a private company to how to operate their business? I don't know um that that's that's an answer for that's a question for a lawyer but definitely like. I can't even believe i saw that, and you know when it comes to joe rogan.

You know we we would love to have him on the platform. I would protect him from. I wouldn't allow any type of censorship or any type of uh uh, any type of shadow banning whatever you want to call it on someone on any on anyone. It doesn't have to be joe rogan, but like we would absolutely love to have him come to this platform and uh.

I think this would be a great home for him um what happens at spotify. I am not sure i didn't really like the move that spotify made just last week, starting to put things on top of videos and expressing their opinions and editorial controls around videos that they don't like what they consider to be misinformation. I think that's a step in the wrong direction for them. Um and it seems, like you know, that's the first step that twitter made at one point.

That's the first step. Other platforms make that's a step that you know you don't take if you're protecting the free and open internet. That's that's not protecting the free and open internet. That's expressing your opinions and you kind of saying: what's uh, what's right or what's wrong, i'm like i, how irresponsible would it be to ask me to be the arbiter of truth? It is so irresponsible to ask me to tell you what's right or wrong and what's truth and what's false, like that's not my job, it never will be, and i won't ever do that.

Well, we beyond the government, like it seems like a lot of people, do that i mean over the past year or two you're, almost seeing sometimes like advertisers threaten it like they're, like we just hey, don't say, don't have that opinion or we're not going to give You money so it's it's bleeding over from the government and also in the corporate world of um. It's weird and it seems like it's a dangerous game that it's really getting into yeah. No um. That's happened to us.

We've had an advertiser. Ask us to like not monetize a specific channel um and we told them to go pound sand um. We said you know unless you change the way you you want to advertise on rumble we're not allowing you to advertise on rumble at all anymore so that that happened about a month ago, and i believe we we put out a release about that um, but that That's how that's how strongly we feel in the mission and and strongly we feel against, cancel culture, that if someone comes to try to cancel one of our creators um on grounds that are like that, uh there's absolutely no way we're we're on the side of the Crater here and not going to be on the side of someone that's trying to influence the way we operate this platform and that's a hard line. That's that's like on our corporate website.

That's uh everything we do like we. We always speak about how we're we want to make this as immune to cancer culture as possible and uh. We'll continue to to not just talk that, but we want to walk that man. I mean as a creator on rumble that makes me feel a little bit better, but i have to ask so is this one of those things that it sounds good because, right here, it's two guys talking about hey.

Maybe we should really make sure that um, this concept of freedom of speech isn't infringed upon. Are we standing on some, i guess virtuous mountain and we're screaming and no one's hearing us or is it actually working? Is it working for you as a business um? Could you go over like? Are you growing yeah yeah? Well, i think we just released actually today our our numbers in january um and i can't uh sight them off the top of my head, but the growth is like double digit growth across users, um january versus january versus december 2021. We're seeing double double double digit growth month over month on users on watch time on uploaded content. Those are our three more main kpis and we delivered double digit growth on all three of those kpis.

I believe um and that's you know watching these. Other platforms like facebook lose users while we're gaining them is uh is quite the accomplishment. I really think that's kind of showing where the internet is going um. It's showing that there's a real appetite for what we're doing and there's just like a significant distrust among the incumbent platforms in these huge corporate 100 billion trillion dollar companies out there that are trying to dictate what people say and editorialize content.

I think it's having an effect and i don't think there's you know it was funny. They said that you know they're gon na experience, uh headwinds in competition - and you know they didn't cite what that is, but uh, i'm not sure how those i'm not sure how like snapchat's doing right now. Um and other platforms are doing, but i i can. I can certainly speak to to rumble we're growing, and you know year over year month, over month, it's been, it's been an unbelievable story up until now, and i it seems like it's.

I typically january's is one of the slower months of the year um and not for us. It was uh the best month, uh that we've seen in a while. So it's it's! It's been quite the trajectory in the last uh year and a half two years here. Well, definitely, congratulations and to go a little bit deeper, so yeah we're talking about facebook right now, facebook not having a good day if you're watching this live or if you're watching later.

This is today february the 3rd. But recently we also had alphabet report and alphabet for those of you who don't know also owns youtube and across all their majors business sectors like alphabet aka, google performed very, very well, but the one that missed was actually youtube's ad and that was um. It came in at like 8.63 and they were looking at 8.87, so out of all the things they actually missed in the youtube realm, and i wasn't able to find like particularly, you are now currently targeting the canada and the u.s sector, and i couldn't find like The metrics for youtube for that, but overall, like you're, seeing a downtrend in that as well, and we also know facebook their ads got like really messed up: users going down they're in a big fight with apple um. It seems like change, is a foot and like you're talking about snapchat they're, actually going to be reporting tonight, so we're going to have like more information on them very very soon by this time tomorrow, we'll have a better idea of what's going on on a different Social media platform, but um it's interesting and for it's oddly, i guess, become like political and people, have very, very strong like feelings about this and it seems like people are picking sides, and i don't know.

Maybe i just don't have that much life experience of like what is or isn't happening, but to me it just seems as basic as like. Let people share their opinions and if people like it, they're gon na, like kind of be with that person, if they don't they'll, go with someone else. But this fact that, like you, said like being an arbiter like a corporate arbiter, is weird because, like at the bottom line, a business's goal is to make money not necessarily like objective moral truth so like. How could they be the arbiter when, like their overall intent, is something completely different? Yeah - and you know, one of the things that is funny is like look at look at snap.

When you look at snapchat like they, i think they lost like in 2019, like a billion dollars. I don't know the exact numbers, but a billion dollars to get how and how many users they have they have like 100. Let's say i don't i don't know the number but let's say roughly 100 million active users in the us and canadian market it. When you compare that to rumble think about that, we're not spending a billion dollars, i couldn't even raise money in 2013 from vcs to build this platform.

I had to do this with my own hands and we have accomplished you know 39. I think it was 39 million, a million monthly active users in january with primary the primary audience being in us and canada, without spending a billion dollars, um not even close, and i think that's the real story that a lot of people are missing here is that You know think about how far we've gotten on so little money um and not raising money, while these huge conglomerates are spending billions for their audiences and we're not and uh. Imagine if we, if we start spending money to to really improve the platform and really start improving our cloud services that i i just i'm really bullish on on the idea of rumble and what we can do as a as we continue to grow and we we Get our hands on capital to grow this business because we've done a lot with uh without without a lot of capital, man. Speaking of like influence and who makes what decision.

I feel like that's another thing that maybe might be a misconception of rumble um. So i'm aware like - and i have no visions of grandeur that you like are fully following the world that i come in, but for the world that i come from and right now um, i would say the community that i'm most associated with it's very strongly fighting Against the current, i guess, trend and the setup of like wall street wall street cronyism and like kind of the the plate of pay-to-play atmosphere that we have going on there and what's interesting, is um. A lot of us got this rise out of gamestop roughly a year ago, and people who chose to make content a lot of it was centered on youtube. A lot of it was centered on twitter and a lot of it was centered on reddit reddit, i believe, is potentially going to ipo, but right now, some of these, the people that i'm referring to they have like a 90 million dollar investment in twitter.

A 400 million dollar investment in google, which is youtube and then here it's kind of interesting, and maybe you could run us through some like just the facts and figures, because who knows? Maybe i got it wrong, but i believe you guys are now live on the nasdaq. Through this fact it was cfvi um, but what i was looking at it - it just seems so much like smaller, but who knows, maybe i'm getting it wrong. Could you like run us through like who's calling the shots? Are there big investors because it seems like that's where some of these other platforms went awry? So could you just give us like that general overview of like the money side of things? How can we trust and rumble to not be influenced by these outside wall street corporate influences? Yes, so, like i said, we started in 2013, tried to raise money blessing in disguise, didn't raise any money because they all laughed at us competing when we said we wanted to compete against youtube um. So we got to a point where we accumulated a lot of users and we took on our first cash investment uh from peter thiel in i think it was april.

Uh april may uh april, i think of 2021, so less than a year ago and then um. We also uh we're. We did a, we did a deal with uh cfei to to merge with them um uh through their spac and uh. The interesting thing here is because we did bootstrap and we were able to grow and become a very large company on the user side um on our own uh.

We we've been able to really retain a lot of control and a lot of the ownership of this company um. Just to give you to give you the details here, um specifically, 82.2 percent of the the shareholders of uh. The rollover share for the pro for pro forma ownership. The rollover equity will be existing rumble shareholders um.

Then there will be a 11.5 percent will, which will be the public's stockholders uh of cf of cfei. I believe and then 3.8 will be made up of the pipe investors and then uh cfvi uh, sponsor, which is canada, fitzgerald will have 2.5 percent, and i personally will maintain uh uh, roughly 85 voting control of uh of of rumble. So you know with that being said: uh. It would be very difficult to to influence rumble in any meaningful way when, when i have uh 85 percent like in the only thing that's going to influence me is our community and i'm going to stick to this mission.

For for as long as i'm here um without a doubt like it's it's on our it's on our home page of our corporate site, it's how we raise money. We raise money on being a neutral platform and we raise money on the idea of uh. Of being a making this company immune to cancer cultures, so that's what we're going to dig into and uh. I look forward to doing that because uh that that's what i really believe in and like my whole team, like we're all in this for the mission we've been in this business, you know since we started uh, you know, as cto has been here since day one.

My chief content officer has been here since day, one um - and you know i just brought on a ceo who's, uh i've known for for 30 years. So like we're, we all come from the same area in in the toronto area outside of toronto and we're all in this to roll up our sleeves and really uh. Make the internet free and open again that that's our core mission and we're going to stick to it awesome i mean that sounds great to me. Um and i appreciate your time.

It looks like we're at the end here, so i'm going to like kind of conclude. This with one final question before i let you go of that mission. Where are you at in terms of your confidence in being successful within that mission? Super high? It's like you know. I think our numbers are speaking for themselves right now, uh, seeing what we've done in january, with that primarily being in u.s and canada, the the the largest markets, the us being the largest market um, is just a testament to to how much people care about uh.

The free and open internet - we all - i remember like 20 years ago when we start started. Everyone was like talking about oh the day that the internet will be regulated and how horrible that'll be. We can never allow that to happen, and you know it's kind of happening right now and uh. It's really important to have companies like rumble, really push back against that, and it's kind of sad to see that there aren't that many of us out there but uh.

I really think that we're gon na be the vehicle. That's gon na tilt the mark, the market back uh, to the way we we all envision the internet and uh. I i'll do my absolute best to do that and uh. You know we can't do it without the community out there and uh the creators out there, and i think, like the the majority of the market, really wants that and uh rumble is a testament to to that.

It's uh. I think we're proving that uh. There is a huge appetite and that appetite is not slowing down. It is only accelerating so um.

That's it excites me. I have the the i wouldn't be here if i didn't think it had the the best chance in the world to uh to really work out and uh, even even if it didn't, i would still be fighting for it. So um i'm i'm excited and i have to admit you're making me excited well on a personal level. Thank you so much for your time and i'm sure the audience is also awesome that you were able to take out this half hour.

I'm sure you're very, very busy day to talk to us about what's going on with the internet, the freedom and censorship, and it's also awesome that you are accessible enough to answer some of these questions, because people build up assumptions and all of a sudden. These assumptions become truth, so it's nice to know that you were reachable enough to have this conversation so truly truly, i appreciate it. Thank you so much and enjoy the rest of your day. Matt.

Thank you so much, and i'm always here. I always want to talk to everyone, so i'm always available. Thank you for having me all right have a great one. Thank you.

Take care all right folks, thank you for joining up uh. That was awesome. That was chris pavlovsky he's the ceo and founder of rumble. Um once again, if there's questions, maybe we could bring him again in the future, see how things are going.

If you want to check out that's backpay, it is cfvi. Speaking of this, i wish i did it at the start for all of you um just so you know i own no cfei. We are doing this live right. Now i don't own it, i'm in the whatever i'll promise you in the next couple days, i'm not going to be buying it.

If i do end up buying investing in it i'll, let you know, but i i own none of that equity. I know ownership uh. I just figured with the craziness that we're seeing in the world right now. Maybe let's get a little bit of a differing opinion out there, so i truly hope that you enjoy it hey.

If you want to join up with the moon gang, all you have to do is hit that subscribe button and, if you haven't already don't forget to drop that like it, helps me out the algorithm but hey, who knows how those things are really going anymore. Overall, thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

I do appreciate your time and i'll be catching you later on today have an absolutely beautiful day. You.